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@AlbMagno wrote: You do really like to convince other people, don’t you? I’ve already said you, I disagree with other catholics, and Judas’ fate isn’t a dogma, so I am free to believe whatever I want....
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@Ammi wrote: Yes. I’m not trying to convince you its dogma. I’ve actually entered the discussion to say the same thing. My point, is that it’s much more of a modern interpretation of Scripture, that...
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@Bernoulli wrote: AlbMagno: Judas’ fate isn’t a dogma, so I am free to believe whatever I want. Not being a dogma means that you cannot be charged with canonical heresy, but there can still be moral...
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@AlbMagno wrote: I believe it’s obvious that if I said I believed it, I believe it in good faith. Read full topic
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@Nisrani wrote: Ammi: My point, is that it’s much more of a modern interpretation of Scripture, that it’s possible Judas was redeemed, yet still died by suicide. That doesn’t mean that it is...
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@ThomasBall wrote: So the Church actually does teach there are currently people in hell, it just doesn’t drop names. The ecumenical councils of Florence and the Fourth Lateran Council both declared...
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@ThomasBall wrote: “If anyone says or holds that the punishment of devils and wicked men is temporary and will eventually cease, that is to say, that devils or the ungodly will be completely restored...
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@Nisrani wrote: ThomasBall: it just doesn’t drop names Correct. That’s what I said. Read full topic
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@Joseph159 wrote: “a controlling regime” lol . Use euphemisms much? It is letting atheist Chinese communists “have a say” -in choosing clergy / bishops. Let that sink in. Communists helping choose...
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@pnewton wrote: Joseph159: Let that sink in. Communists helping choose bishops. “Sinking in” does not mean changing opinions, as much as you may think. The Holy Father made a decision that will expand...
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@vz71 wrote: pnewton: The Holy Father made a decision that will expand the Sacraments in China. You act like there is no up side to the Holy Eucharist being available The communist government in China...
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@graciew wrote: This is mine. But I will say it anyway. How can one claim disappearances of people who supposedly never met? What do you do? Disclose the “ secret meetings “ and all their...
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@pnewton wrote: Dominusvobiscum1: . Historically it is a good thing. Historically, it may one day be a good thing again. I just do not see the comparisons of modern popes, say the last two centuries,...
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@Joseph159 wrote: I still do not understand how you can gloss over the fact that we now have Chinese communists having a say in choosing bishops. I see it as yet another example of a group...
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@Maximus1 wrote: I would say we are missing a conclusive statement and one opinion that matters. Your quote from Saint Pope John Paul II is sound on his part. Jesus statement is not conclusive. And...
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@Bernoulli wrote: Maximus1: We continue to pray for all souls in our liturgy. We have an All Souls Day. And these things would be error if we were certain a soul was damned. All Souls’ Day is more...
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@Maximus1 wrote: We exclude no names from the prayer. Not even Judas. That is my point. I am not claiming to know where Judas went. Read full topic
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@Nisrani wrote: pnewton: The Holy Father made a decision that will expand the Sacraments in China. And potentially weaken or kill the Church within China. Evil will not prevail against the Church as a...
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@CajunJoy65 wrote: Pope Francis needs each and every Catholic’s prayers. His burden is very heavy and difficult. He’s human but he is also our Spiritual Shepherds here on Earth. God bless him and give...
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@MiserereMeiDei wrote: Woe to that man by whom the son of man is betrayed! Excerpted from: https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2015/03/damned-lies-on-destiny-of-judas-iscariot.html?m=1 From the...
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@Maximus1 wrote: And yet Saint Pope John Paul II tells us that language is not conclusive. I don’t pretend certitude but I do understand the ramifications. Two schools of thought. In one, God’s grace...
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@Maximus1 wrote: Punishment does not mean eternal damnation by the way. There is no doubt Judas has been punished. He betrayed the Lord, his friend, and an innocent man. Read full topic
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@Dorothy wrote: I don’t recall if those exact words were used. It doesn’t sound right. Read full topic
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@Ammi wrote: AlbMagno: Well fine, I already knew that. Hear is an article with a liturgical prayer, and Pope St. Leo the Great as well as three more Saints and Doctors of the Church on interpreting...
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